Dog Hunting

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As noted in the content section of this website, there are some types of hunting that uses dogs that are not an inconvience to anyone, nor do they generate any negative feedback from the non-hunting public. Examples are raccoon, squirrel, duck, quail, and maybe others.

However, dog hunting for deer is another matter. Should the use of dogs in the taking of deer be totally banned at the state level by an act of legislation? In order to be enforced, bear and possibly fox would have to be included in this law, otherwise the hunters would say that they were hunting something other than a deer.

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Stop the use of dogs in hunting deer. It is as simple as that.

Hunter

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Nothing can fill up a room full of hunters in eastern NC faster than a discussion on this topic. For the purpose of understanding, this poll is excluding using dogs for hunting quail, duck, rabbit, and raccoon. Simply because while hunting for these animals, these dogs are much more easily contained on a single tract of land and do not inconvenience anyone.

Since deer, bear, and foxes can run for a long distance and will cross several property lines, the probability of inconvenience to another person and the potential conflict that arises is much greater.

Big ED · Post subject: Re: Dog Hunting Posted: Tuesday, Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:36 pm

Let the Dogs Run

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Big Ed, are you a dog hunter?

guest · Post subject: Re: Dog Hunting Posted: Sunday, Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:21 am

Bear hunting with dogs is too popular in the mountains to ban it.

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You are correct, it is very popular. But that is part of the diversity of North Carolina. Out west, there are vast expanses of land in which to run dogs, whereas in the eastern part, people will turn a pack of dogs loose on a 5 acre tract of land knowing full well that the dogs will cause problems with the people that live around it. And the hunters will not care.

nitefury · Post subject: Re: Dog Hunting Posted: Thursday, Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:05 pm

I would like to start by saying that I personally enjoy all types of hunting and if possible I would love for the sport of hunting to continue forever. I dont know what I would do without hunting. I feel sorry for anyone who has'nt had the ultimate opportunity of being able to experience the feeling of hunting and taking game whether it be alone or with the company of a friend or family member. Im only 23 but I've been huting ever since I was old enough to get aroud in the woods. My granfather is 68 yaers old and he has hunted all his life and still goes as often as he is able. He has had open heart surgury and he is diabetic but his love for the sport wont let him stop. I thank god for him, and for him being able to introduce me to one of the most thrilling experiences of my life(hunting). Hunting is like an addiction that is unsatisfiable for me. When Im not working (Im a sate employee I work for the NC agriculural dept. doing agricultural research)or spending time with my beloved family Im hunting, or caring for my hunting land and feeding the critters. I dearly love all types of hunting, I personally would'nt want to have to sacrifice any one of them. Im heavily envolved in the sport of hunting racoon with the use of dogs, this is my most favorite form of hunting. I also enjoy hunting rabbit and squirrel with and without the use of dogs as well as hunting deer,turkey and occasionally dove hunting. I've never had the opportunity to hunt much big game such as bear or wild hogs, but I respect the people who do participate in these types of hunting because Im sure that its very exciting and the people who participate find it very pleasurable. Im not going to try to humiliate or to judge people who do use dogs for hunting bear or wild boar or other types of game because I cant judge something that Ive never participated in nor do I know enough about it to make an informed decision about it. I feel that it is very easy for someone to set back and make a statement or a decision about someting that they dont know a single thing about but as for me I refuse to do this and I think that it is very important that no one else does either. Hunting with dogs is an incredible experience that I cant shake and I find it hard to ask anyone else to sacrifise there hoby just because I personally dont participate in there type of dog hunting. I personally know what loving hounds is all about, and for the most hunters who do use dogs for the means of hunting give there dogs there upmost attention and care. These people spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to care for there hounds and then a bunch of so called experts that usually dont even know anything about there sport want to deny them and there hounds the right to do what they love most which is hunt game. These hounds have been breed for hundreds of years generation after generation to track and tree game, this is what the hounds want to do,its instinctive there never forced to do anything. Money has changed the world more than any other given thing. Hunting use to be a means of survival it was a way of life, people were dependent on the land to supply them with food. My grandfather is 1 of 14 children in his family he was dirt poor growing up so poor that they would wake up with a light dusting of snow on their blankets in the the harsh winter months because of the poor conditions of there house and there was only 1 wood or coal stove to heat there house. He has told me many times how important hunting was to him and his family and how it was used to feed them, but now people have plenty of money and hunting is there least worry, but for some of us its still a way of life and its a very important part of our life and heritage. Its these big money people that is detrimental to our hunting rights, there not concerned about our feelings and our hunting and fishing rights. Hunters as a whole as 1, we need to fight this war for our rights and not be so concerned about what type of hunter you are and rememeber that its our love for the sport that unites us and makes us hunters. I do feel that we need to be very respectful of landowners in order to keep the sport of hunting alive. I feel that this is where a great lot hunting problems comes into play, is when landowners are disrepected. Im very honored when landowners permit me the right to use there land to hunt because first of all they dont have to and second of all I feel very fortunate because without their generousity I wouldnt be able to hunt, because I dont have the money to purchase my own land at this time and state hunting land is sparse. When hunting on someone else's land you should show them and there land you upmost respect and dignity. Never go onto someones land without permission preferably written permission and never throw down your trash or damage any part of there land such as never drive on there roads when there muddy or go of there trails or especially never harm there crops or damage there fences. In closing I will say that we should all work together to preserve our right to hunt, whether you use dogs as means of hunting or not, and that we need o work together to encourage land conservation so that we will allways have sufficient amounts of land to hunt no matter what type of hunting it may be. Remember to take a kid hunting or fishing because they will never forget the experiences that you abled them to have the opportunity to experience and also we need all the support that we can get to keep the sport of hunting alive.
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Erick, you wrote:

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In closing I will say that we should all work together to preserve our

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right to hunt,

whether you use dogs as means of hunting or not, and that we need to work together to encourage land conservation so that we will allways have sufficient amounts of land to hunt no matter what type of hunting it may be. Remember to take a kid hunting or fishing because they will never forget the experiences that you abled them to have the opportunity to experience and also we need all the support that we can get to keep the sport of hunting alive.

I appreciate you taking the time to speak your mind as you are obviously a concerned hunter. I would like to correct you in that hunting is not a right, it is a privilege. IMHO (In my humble opinion), hunting is at a crossroads now. We (NC) and other state hunting agencies will some day have to address the manner in which people are allowed to hunt. Many other state agencies have already addressed this and made the necessary changes. These states have what may be the best sport hunting anywhere. I am talking about the states which have outlawed hunting deer with dogs and even in some counties in NC where dog hunting has been outlawed. I don't feel that I am anti dog hunting per se, but I am for controlling it instead of it existing in a completely uncontrolled environment like it is now. I also don't want dog hunting to drag down the whole sport of hunting, which it is. Do you hope or expect hunters to police themselves? I doubt it, no, I know they won't.

I also wish that the hunting agency which is supposed to manage hunting in the state of North Carolina, the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, would address this issue, but they won't. They are wanting the mighty dollar from the dog hunters which gives them the power to operate with a certain measure of independence from our state government. If this issue would be addressed publically, then the public outcry would far exceed that which has been expressed from the information gathered regarding Sunday Hunting.

Thanks again, you obviously put some thought and feeling behind your words. I appreciate this.

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nitefury · Post subject: Re: Dog Hunting Posted: Thursday, Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:46 pm

Yes you are right hunting is not a right it is a privilege, its a privilege that can be taken away, and that is the reason for my concern because everyone doesnt look at hunting like me and you. I think thats its wrong that the good honest , and respectful hunters such as me and you have to suffer the consequences for the few bad apples that make a bad name for all of us. Thank you for your consideration and you generousity. I have registered and I do plan on writting more on our proposed topics. Lets all try to get along and have understanding with one another and participate in theses forums with an open mind.

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Hawgnman · Joined: Posts: 6 Location: NC

Dog hunting for deer, fox, and bear will never be illegal in my life time in NC.

I don't hunt with dogs for any of them, but I know the tradtions in parts of NC. It would raise a firestorm, if someone tried to stop dog hunting. There is a dog (deer) hunting club next to my club.

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There is a dog (deer) hunting club next to my club.

You poor thing you. I reserve the right to be wrong, but if you live next to a dog club, then I doubt that you are never inconvenienced by their way of hunting.

Realtree · Post subject: Dog Hunting Posted: Sunday, Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:40 pm

Dog hunting is not a problem let it continue, so that deer herds can be manage.

whitty78 · Joined: Posts: 2 Location: raleigh nc

To the majority I dont believe in dog hunting. I think we should take a look at the boone and crockett rules and regualtions a ONE on ONE hunt for fair chase. Fair chase rules and regulations dont apply to dog hunting. Although dog hunting is on the decline because of our hyper-litigious society. Landowners have been found liable for leasing land to dog hunters who have been injured and also one recently, a small landowner, won a lawsuit against a timber company because dog hunters leasing the timber company lands were interfering with his “quiet enjoyment” of his property! So if you are a landowner heed this warning. Going back to to boone and crockett fair chase is defined as a one on one engagement between preaditory and prey. I find there is nothing like seeing a 2 yr old deer and watching him grow to 5-6 years old before harvesting. The deer has time to mature and impact the herd before his decline. Dog hunters in my experience, have the moto "if it is brown its down" killing everything in sight because his buddy has a tag. Dog hunting cant let herd reach it's maturity and does not let the hunter enjoy the art of stalking a deer. There is no substitute for learning a particular deers behavior physiology, biology, and social dynamics. In my opinion,dog hunting should be reserved for the dangerous animal category ie bears, cougars, mt lions, etc. If you oppose this, reasearch wildlife game management sites, feild and stream buck of a lifetime, and boone and crockett, pope and young and get a deer education. In conclusion, dog hunters be aware of all the known legal actions againist you with injured hunters,landowners beware of leasing land and consult your lawyer before leasing to dog hunters, dog hunters I challenge your simple minded ways to see a mature deer and stalk him until he is harvested. Save fair chase and stop dog hunting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!